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The article says the 2nd.

I would prefer a Studio if it does a decent enough job even if throttles a bit under load, way less power usage and noise than those GPUs plus the PC you need to put those in.

If you're fine overpaying for a throttling computer, you could buy 40-series cards and underclock them to the same TDP of a Mac Studio.

You'd probably get faster prefill speeds, as well as better drivers for accelerated transcode and gaming applications.


Yeah but you could heat your whole house!

Problem is affording the ram…

Apple is finally going to realize Jobs vision where sand comes into the factory, is turned into RAM and CPU chips, then installed in a Mac or iPhone then shipped to a customer.

Isnt the proper kind of sand in short supply aswell?

Just curious, is there a way to invest in sand?


As some like to call it, 'the last moat'.

Well yes. But similar to the Apple TSMC relationship, could Apple step in with large orders to established RAM makers such that the RAM makers can invest with stability?

M series chips are system-on-chip with RAM on the same wafer with CPU and GPU, so it impossible to outsource only part of the chip

No it isn't, DRAM is made with a different process and those are chiplets, perfectly possible to outsource, and the only possibility really as TSMC does not make DRAM.

Thanks for clarifying, then the suggestion above does makes sense

Why? The specs and benchmarks will show the differences, there’s no marketing around that.

Suppliers have ceased to exist in the past decades for building up fabs to satisfy demand and by the time they went online prices cratered. I’d assume is even riskier and more expensive now.

This isn’t the 1st increase they do on these consoles.

And it isn’t the 1st time they increased it, also PlayStation.

Microsoft said ram/storage increased prices 2.5x since late 25 and they expect it to increase another 2.5x by late 27.


> And it isn’t the 1st time they increased it, also PlayStation.

I keep seeing FLOODS of comments from people saying "at least Sony didn't raise prices1" Well, they did a month or two ago, so I have no idea why they say that. Literally everything with RAM is more expensive now.


Yes, even the Switch 2. Nobody escapes this.

Microsoft should tell OpenAI to stop it

I’d argue that Nadella has considered spinning off or even selling Xbox considering how it’s been going for them.

I suppose it doesn’t really fit into a business that is so focused on enterprise so I wouldn’t be surprised.

Especially seeing as Windows is becoming less relevant to the typical consumer as well.


That doesn’t make sense, they spent billions on a shopping spree of game devs.

Their game pass business model, which is terrible for consumers once the rug pull happens, is making them a lot of money and market share


In the hopes of selling more consoles and that didn’t work.

Not sure if you have seen the recent news but things are not looking great there. Gamepass is not making them a lot of money at all. Even after acquiring Activision their operating margin is 3%

Big layoffs / studio closures coming in July, on top of the previous ones.

Internal memo: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/06/10/next-100-days-xbox-re...

Spinning off Xbox: https://www.reuters.com/business/microsoft-has-considered-sp...


Most gamers think xbox is dead and Microsoft doesn't seem too sure either, they recently had a change in leadership but the whole division is not doing great and struggling. Game pass is not as popular as it used to be

Gamepass was never popular enough to justify the expenses and investments on the level they did.

They just thought growth will forever be exponential until they have a billion subscribers.


> Their game pass business model, which is terrible for consumers once the rug pull happens, is making them a lot of money and market share

It seems more like their game pass price hike destroyed market share. Whatever revenue it yielded them now is sure to cost them in the long term because people viewed them as price gouging and moved to playstation.

I don't understand the model, tbh. It strikes me as more useful as a loss-leader to build market share at cost to the company and make money in licensing fees long-term. But as it is, the console seems doomed.


> Their game pass business model, which is terrible for consumers once the rug pull happens, is making them a lot of money and market share

How much money is it making, and how much market share?


This would be incredibly foolish. The consumer value of windows has gone off a cliff, and while the Xbox hasn't been competing with the PS5, it's going to be a solid earner for decades. They just need to avoid another game pass catastrophe that destroyed trust with the consumer.

what was the game pass catastrophe?

They should’ve done it a while ago before Microsoft acquired more studios.

Microsoft doesn't care about xbox like they care about copilot.

Watch any video from Microsoft leaders of the last years. It's all copilot copilot copilot. Not Xbox Xbox Xbox.

I mean it makes sense because "investors" are all screaming AI, not gaming. But for us it all sucks of course.


I got a Mac Mini on Amazon in July 2025 for 575€, the exact model is currently 969€ in the Apple Store.

This is going to be the 1st increase of a series of increases. I don’t think this will ease in the next 2-3 years.

The new Xbox CEO said recently they are expecting storage prices to be 5x what they were late 2025 by late 2027. And that RAM should be similar.

Anyone making hardware is having a rough time. Like Valve who had to release their new PC at around 40% more expensive than what they originally wanted.


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