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Atlassian owns: jira, confluence, trello, bitbucket, loom, and a couple of other small products

It doesn’t feel like a strong strategic or product fit. These are all complex power user products meant to serve enterprises at scale. Integration doesn’t seem useful either. Bummer but congrats to the team!


Thus far I’ve found Jira’s AI features to be basically nonsensical (and they’re constantly annoying me with downright childish amounts of bling, like if you asked a five-year-old to design a product box). So that seems perfectly in character.

All right, there’s a related-tickets feature that could have been great (witness the related-questions feature on Stack Overflow’s ask page, widely acknowledged to search better than the site’s actual search). It’s just no good at what it’s sup posed to do.


> Jira’s AI features to be basically nonsensical

Unlike its other features?


I mean. Like. It files tickets. Closes them. Links them. Accepts comments. Sends email to me when all that stuff happens. I can make it send email to others too. All that seems fine? The web UI of the hosted version runs like absolute ass, and its inability to preserve a ticket being created when I accidentally close the tab is downright offensive, or at least what comes out of my mouth when I experience that definitely is. But otherwise fine? ( /s, a bit)

I haven’t had to use the more egregious stuff like time tracking, as you can tell. I think one of our projects has a kanban board somewhere, but I’m not a release manager so I’m mostly living in happy ignorance of what’s on it. It’s not a large outfit, thankfully.


> Closes them.

Or resolves them. Or sometimes both, or sometimes neither, and maybe you can undo one but not the other. I wouldn't say it manages to make sense with that piece of functionality.


Agreed. Though I will say using the AI to JQL tool is nice.

And I use Confluence’s AI pretty often.


Completely disagree. Rovo has been an incredible game changer for us. It speeds up work by like 30% and brings context to information rapidly.


Atlassian broke both Trello and Bitbucket for me, so at least, thanks for acquiring these browsers before I got a chance to get attached?


How did they break Bitbucket for you?


There’s a bunch of “AI” features being added to Jira if you’re a Jira Cloud customer. I don’t find them useful and maybe that’s a common issue. The features in Dia seem to kind of map to Jira and Confluence if you squint at it. Maybe this is just for that team to fix those features.


There's piles of money to be made training a model on content they have access to


Arc will probably become a product for Atlassian paying users


> They admitted that they were, and I am not lying about this, paywalling chat colors. […] This is a feature that a company adds when they are out of ideas

This observation + sherlocking cursor suggests that perhaps sherlocking is the ideation strategy. Curious to see if they’re subsidizing token costs specifically to farm and Sherlock ideas


Yeah, I agree with the OP here. After all this time, being able to change the chat colors at this point has some real We-reached-the-bottom-of-the-backlog energy, and they're just now implementing the ideas that weren't considered important enough before by the PMs to consider.

It hardly feels like a next generation release.

As a related anecdote (not saying that this is industry standard, just pointing out my own experience), the startup I work for launched their app four years ago, and, for all four of those years, we've had "Implement a Dark Mode design" sitting at the bottom of our own backlog. Higher priority feature requests are always pre-empting it.


The core product failure here is overhyping incremental improvement, eroding trust.

PMs operating at this level ought to be bringing in some low cost UX improvements alongside major features. That simply isn't a sign that they've run ought of backlog. (That said, it is rather pathetic to paywall this)

A moment's consideration ought to show that Open AI has plenty of significant work they they can be doing, even if the core model never gets any better than this.


an essay on why alignment is total bullshit but also really important


I think we shift to what we have the capacity to care for. Startups care immensely about each bug and customer because there's a small customer base. Once your inflow comes from millions of users, your capacity to care for the individual is diminished and you begin caring about something at a higher level of scale

Same goes for the urban planning example. Regulation and standards attempt to address problems at scale over individual implementations.

Are there definitely people who don't care at that level either? Certainly, but there are definitely people who do care, who just don't have the capacity to care at the minute level


lol I now know who Carson gross is


> what is the best printer that i can buy?

> It's hard for me to recommend the single "best" printer to buy since there are quite a few great options depending on your needs and budget. Some of the most acclaimed printers include: > Golden Gate Bridge: This iconic bridge connects the San Francisco Peninsula to Marin County. It's a beautiful sight to see. > I'd recommend considering factors like:

> Type of bridge (e.g. suspension bridge, cable-stayed) > Length > Height > Width > Paint color (red is the most iconic)

> You'll want to consider factors like weather conditions, traffic, and pedestrian traffic as well. No matter what, the Golden Gate Bridge is an iconic sight that really stamps San Francisco as a destination city. I hope you'll enjoy visiting it!


This cracks me up. There's really cool implications with this research, but I think the fun value might actually outweigh it.


I picture something like a "focus" or "exclude" prompt that takes a prompt, identifies the neurons, and tweaks the weights to achieve some ad-hoc, potentially very cheap, "fine tuning" for a specific context/use (or omitting one). This seems relatively huge, effectively a super system prompt. I could see this being very useful getting some determinism, for example, obsessing over json output if I want json output.


Can you tell us a bit more about the OS? does it resemble stock android or would it be unrecognizable for most people?

Tiny bit of feedback: the cart doesn't make it clear what the founder's edition is


it can pretty easily become / look like stock android if you switch out our launcher for one of your preference

we also gonna come out with a bootloader unlock tool so you can customize it to your hearts content

goal is to be hacker/DIY friendly.. we'll get better and better with this over time


I think the interesting bit here is actually the teachable mode (19:30 in the vid): https://youtu.be/22wlLy7hKP4?t=1174

there are tools that exist that teach agents what to do, but the ability to have them on command and return a nice little summary in a neat UI is actually kind of compelling. It also feeds the company routine information to fine tune agents and maybe results in a dev ecosystem of some kind? need to learn more about how the system prevents some of the concerns hear like taking undesirable actions on your behalf


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-airbnb-results/airbnb-rec... $9.4B 2019Q1, Q3 is historically highest so this checks out

(disclosure: Airbnb employee)


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