I think the infinite canvas is a key feature, so you couldn't just disregard this to make it into a window manager.

You could absolutely (on some platforms) make a window manager which is an infinite canvas.

But at the moment it's cross platform.

I don't want to give my ID to every service I interact online. But I also don't think it's reasonable to ask of parents to ensure their children aren't accessing age restricted content online.

What about liquor shops or strip clubs? They ask for ID, which makes sense; we're not expecting parents to make sure their children don't go into these places. But the liquor shop takes a look at the ID and then doesn't collect the data.

Being entirely against age verification is not a good stance I think, but we should definitely have a hard stance on the privacy issue. There are systems that preserve privacy while still making it possible to verify you're old enough to use a service.

People like to make fun of and poke holes in the EU's planned implementation of this, but so far they seem to be the only ones trying to implement this in a way that doesn't give my name to every online service or give some identity provider full knowledge which services I sign up to

The California bill about setting an age in the OS was another interesting idea. Have the parents police a single setting on the device, then websites and apps can query that setting. Of course that's little more than the parental controls we always had, but apparently everyone forgot about those

>> Being entirely against age verification is not a good stance I think

I think the problem is that the internet has existed for quite a while without it. I'm sure there were similar complaints from people when you suddenly needed to pass a test to drive a car or when insurance became mandatory.

>> There are systems that preserve privacy while still making it possible to verify you're old enough to use a service.

What are these systems?

There are some funny videos of people in pubs in the UK discussing how bad the incoming drink drive rules were, it's a similar deal I think. No one likes being restricted from something they've been allowed to do.

> What are these systems?

We could have a system where I authenticate myself against a government service only, or also licensed third party providers, they then provide me with signed proof-of-age certificates that can also be single use, and then I use them to proof my age with a particular service.

There's age verification and then there's "age verification" (mass surveillance dragnet)

One of these is clearly a very extremely bad thing

If you work to earn a living, you're working class. If you use capital to pay your bills, you're a capitalist. So I'd say someone with that kind of salary and stocks is probably halfway to not-working-class. If you already have 1MM in stocks then you're not working class anymore, you don't need to work at that point.

> If you work to earn a living, you're working class

They are using a divide an conquer strategy. By splitting the working class they want to weak our ability to resist capital.

There is no logic to their argument just lies to fulfill their goal.

> So I'd say someone with that kind of salary and stocks is probably halfway to not-working-class. I

Just halfway seems low. But this is Silicon Valley News after all.

Of course quitting can be in the cards, but I'd much rather see a successful pushback from meta employees against this new policy; maybe this could be a good cause to form a union over.

In the actual article (not the headline) there is no mention of staff reporting to be unhappy.

Quotes from unhappy staff are in the Business Insider article which the article links to in its third paragraph.

Ah I saw it now through another HN submission.

The actual irony is that this very title is the ragebait, as they say in the article:

> .. so it can keep them clicking on ragebait ..

Can you elaborate what the problem is? IMO hosting and search are quite decoupled, why not just search for "open source solution to problem XYZ" in your favorite search engine?

I specifically like the filtering to say "permissive license in Go language"

I agree with the 'setting limits' bit.

But also maybe the parent post and you refer to kids of different ages?

I didn't have access to a computer until I was 9, and then also we didn't have tables and smartphones, so there computer was only available at home as well.

I think below a certain age the limit is fine to be set as 'not at all'.

Individualizing systemic failures to regulate businesses is counterproductive. Meaningful change will only come by regulation.

Give me one example, where consumer behavior really changed anything. Usually what follows from large boycotts is political action or the company succumbing to pressure.

Just stopping to spend your money there might make you feel good but don't kid yourself, it barely does anything if you're not turning it into an organized action.

How do you turn it into an organized action?

Like other commentators I'd argue that the intentions don't matter much, the outcome does.

"The purpose of a system is what it does" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_wha...)

Thanks for replying that. I think after reading this, I'd go with what was said at the end: “There is no such thing as an unintended consequence” - Amazon claiming that what they're doing is to the benefit of consumers is bullshit. Obviously Amazon knows about all of what's going on (i.e. they cause prize inflation elsewhere) and they willfully tolerate these consequences of their policy.

Brilliant. Like how Google websites constantly deprioritized Firefox (and promoted Chrome) and slowly killed it.

I really want this to work! But maybe my requests are too niche. It also hallucinated an EP for me. And the bandcamp links never work?

Great idea though! I got inspired to listen to some stuff by it, even though it wasn't really what I wanted to find.