Looking at their crypto addresses, they are sitting on many thousands of dollars that haven't moved in a very long time. What's the point of donating if they aren't going to use the funds?
I don't understand the need to make things easier for a robot. Point them at an API and they can figure it out. Can you explain in more detail what is easier?
I think that was a problem 6 months ago, but GPT 5.6 Sol on xhigh doesn't have those sorts of issues. I don't think it'll last. Things are moving fast.
People say that with every single model release, and every single time they're wrong. I bet you anything that it's no different this time than the last dozen times.
i'm burning 500m tokens a day "writing code" for 83 days straight. one of those projects i'm building integrates netbox, stripe, quickbooks, mercury and deel all together via api. i wrote zero lines of code and read zero api docs. it does exactly what i want and gives me a 360 degree view of every aspect of my multi million dollar arr biz.
I'm addicted. This is the most fun I've had coding in decades. I feel like I've got superpowers and the limit is just how quickly I can prompt out my ideas.
Those 500m are for coding. Started with $20 and now I'm on the $200/mo codex plan. Resets are crazy... free tokens, why not take advantage of all that VC money? Using omp helps a lot too, the fact that it uses an LSP under the covers is a game changer.
I'm building products non-stop. I have my own business where I built that dashboard and code within our own closed source. I'm side questing on another potential business idea. I published a bunch of open source. Go look at my HN browser extension (https://oj-hn.com) and tell me it is slop, I use it every day, works great, zero bugs and trivial to maintain. I wouldn't have built any of this, without AI.
Using AI to code is a brand new 10k hour skill. I started off not believing and a combination of models just getting better (very quickly!), the tooling getting better (ie: zed acp / omp), and turned myself into a believer. My eyes are wide open.
CloudFlare and their advancements makes it really easy to just deploy things and build products on top of. I'm glad Ryan is making celld, it'll bring this tech to the masses. Durable Objects are really neat, not everything has to be giant and scalable in every way. Just get the job done, refactoring is easy now.
Lastly, I had a major accident in May. 11 days in the hospital. Almost died, but I fought back and I'll recover. I'm very thankful for this life and I want to make the most of it. Building things people want, is how I will contribute. AI is being used heavily in the hospitals now too.
The downvoters and anti-ai angry posters trying to pick apart my words can go f'ck themselves.
Second-to-last paragraph has me non-jokingly interested in talking about working on something together.
Interested in chatting about a bigger swing, following the same user-first design mentality?
I have a great niche staked out, have operated in it previously for somebody else, personally elicited most if not all of the pain points of the underserved users in mind.
I saw ridecontrol a day or so ago - very sleek UX, and sharp UI; I sent it to all relevant contacts!
thank you. i built https://ridecontrol.xyz because of that accident. dr said to get on a trainer and strengthen my leg/butt muscles, i didn't want to write in a cartoon (zwift) and i couldn't find any other free software that i liked, so i used AI to build my own.
read the source, it isn't slop. i spent a lot of time carefully refining the UX to be something i enjoyed, clean and simple. the focus is on the data and there is even a whole physics engine under the covers to make the riding resistance as similar to the road as possible. i used the developer skills i already knew, to build something in record time. i ride an hour a day now and the exercise has been magical in my recovery. i would have never done something this complete and solid without ai and it would have taken me months instead of days.
absolutely reach out. let's build something. username at gmail.
i started a web development business in 1995 and have been coding web stuff for decades.
like the OP, all those years of learning how it works under the covers gives me a distinct advantage since i can easily tell what is slop and what is going to perform. as well as how to get AI to iterate and fix the things it isn't good at (yet). i feel like now i have super powers. i love it and can't get enough.
the fact that your wife can be productive at lower cost means that more products will be built and more opportunities will be made. instead of spending money on website design, her business can spend money developing biotech.
i welcome that, even if it means that things will change from the past and those that have made a career out of charging thousands will get replaced by a $20/month subscription.
Would you say this is a similar but perhaps bigger change to frontpage/Dreamweaver/web app frameworks? Those all drastically cut down tub development time for web pages and at the same time opened up new possibilities. I wonder how it'll pan out with AI
FrontPage, Dreamweaber and co seemed to fell into obscurity when HTML5 & CSS3 came up and from that point web development went much more complicated than that.
Granted, it seems it is easier now to give prompts to an LLM so it will spit things out than back then where you had to know the tool and fiddle with menus and thingies to sort of try to produce a result.
But the drawback seems to be the same for both - lots of unreliable and unoptimized code that will go live if you don't know what they're doing under the hood and can potentially cause issues in the future. Remember that all this tools do are sorts of interpolation. I've seen lately lots of "modern" websites with tons layers of !important in their CSS and who knows the monstrosities that they have with their JS.
Meanwhile I and all people like me still don't have a job because all of this and the alleged "thousands" I was getting for doing this things.
the thing you haven't come to terms with is that it is more important to ship than it is to worry about the issues in the future. i thought RoR taught everyone that.
the beauty of what's happening today is that AI might produce slop on the first try, but you can also refactor just as easily too. "clean up all !important and optimize the code for speed", is just as easy of a prompt and it'll go off and do a fantastic job at that. that is what the OP was talking about in his article.
you don't have a job because you're not adapting to this new world order quickly enough. i predict that there will be insane demand for porting existing applications off these over priced SASS contracts and building tailored products for businesses. as much as they are trying to convince people, you don't need a $5m/yr salesforce / servicenow contract when you understand the business model and can envision a better solution to the actual problem out of thin air.
i'm burning 500m+ tokens a day on a $200/mo subscription. it is creating 10000x more value for me. it is no longer how much you know HTML/CSS, it is how well you know how to get AI to do what you want it to do and the only way to develop that skill, is to do it.
> you don't need a $5m/yr salesforce / servicenow contract when you understand the business model
I'm sure many people will think that; and I'm also fairly confident that 5 years later they'll take their obscure, bug-ridden, vibecoded monstrosity that nobody really understands, throw it out, and get a salesforce contract. Technical debt doesn't disappear just because you have agents working for you; in fact, it is exploding right now, and I would bet good money that 2-3 years for now there will be a flourishing cottage industry of consultancies specialized in dealing with such monstrosities.
Context is important in a response like this. Giacomo is a Sr. Presales consultant at a SaaS company that sells "The AI operating system for modern Finance." Of course you're adverse to things because it is a direct threat to what your business offers today.
If I can vibe code up a solution that fixes my problems for $200, it doesn't matter what happens in 5 years. The rate of change that's happening today in the increase in quality of the output of the models, I can just tell it to fix whatever we have and make it better.
Spoken with the true arrogance of someone who has no idea about the real world of finance.
When your software has to produce legal documents, satisfy auditors, and certify a bunch of things to shareholders and governments, I'm sorry but your $200 vibecoded hack is not going to cut it. You will have to get it certified, to get it audited, to get it secured according to this and that legislation, to prove where it gets each and every number and how it modifies it, and then you will have to maintain it because standards and laws change every other day. Sure, get an agent to cook you up a full consolidation solution, see how quickly you get laughed out of the room by grown-ups.
Btw, I am not "adversed to things" - the stuff we do has agents built-in, that do all sorts of wonderful things. The difference is that we can demonstrate that they do them right, with financial intelligence standardized and battle-tested across thousands of customers all over the world. Our customers don't have to worry about rewriting their pile of vibed hacks, or about being humiliated by auditors, because we take care of all that stuff for them. That's worth more than the pennies you save by having cousin' Vinnie vibe up a multidimensional financial engine that takes 3 days to calculate trillions of useless intersections before falling over.
But more real... Giacomo fails to take into account the concept of when OpenAI decides to create an audited financial service that guarantees that their output is valid. ChatGPT Work is already a beginning of that future.
That's like saying Google offering GMail ended webmail - there are still plenty of webmail services around: some better, some worse, some more specialised. The same will be true of most sectors.
AI is another tool in the toolbox, not magic. It's not about being pro or against it, it's here already (hey, we sell it!) and obviously it will continue to get better; but it won't magically solve everything for $2.
That's great to know, Jon. I suspect non-US governments have a different opinion. Heck, even the US government likely has a different opinion. Not to mention Google competitors in any other sector.
I can see I'm under your skin as you're trying to make this personal. I have a long history of being early and correct with many things. What is transforming under your nose, faster than anything ever before, will take you for surprise, unless make a conscious decsion to wake up. Do yourself a favor and listen to what he's saying... https://youtu.be/NYFGCESmikA?t=2883
I was not the one who brought personal qualifications into a public argument, Jon. I guess you don't like it when your lack of specialized knowledge becomes evident.
As I said, I already know what AI is doing - I already use it just fine, I even help building and selling it. The impact it is having is obvious. But like recipe books did not turn everyone into Michelin chefs, it won't turn hacks into rigorous builders of trusted systems.
Bro, "AI" can't even program decently. It's still, to this day, worse than every human I've ever worked with. The idea that it's going to take over every industry is laughable.
Why the fuck do so many people write like this nowadays? Quit acting like you have access to some sort of universal knowledge or unique insight into other people’s state of mind; it’s extremely obnoxious. You’re presumably trying to communicate with adult professionals, not children.
If you're "reluctantly using" HN, maybe you should stop because it doesn't seem healthy for you.
Yes, I do have some unique insights based on decades of experience building products and businesses. People who think that AI is going to produce shit vibe code forever, deserve the decency to be warned about what is coming.
Seriously, I'm constantly seeing lines like "you're going to be left behind", "this is your fear talking", "keep lying to yourself", "enjoy it while it lasts", etc. What is it about AI that made people start talking like Marvel supervillains?
archagon is anti-ai, no longer works in tech, and hasn't written code in a long while. he's responded to my comment below with something very angry and hateful, and then deleted it. i get the email notifications though, so i saw it.
for those of us who have been coding non-stop for decades, it has made me fall in love with code again. i'm excited, based on personal experience about something that is truly revolutionary. why shouldn't i talk about it with praise and go up against the doubters who are just angry and aren't putting the same level of effort in?
“Same to you. You’re all over this thread with smug comments and cheap snipes. Why are you even here? Are you gaining anything at all from this discussion?
There are loads and loads of people on this site with decades of experience building products and businesses. Don’t talk down to them.”
I deleted it because, in my haste, I did not have time to fully vet the first paragraph. Other than that, I stand by my words on basic netiquette 100%. If this comes off as “very angry and hateful,” you may be a bit sheltered.
As for the grandparent comment, my personal feeling is that this type of rhetoric stems from insecurity and/or contagion from the deluge of AI corp propaganda we’re all drowning in. No previous technological advance elicited this sort of persistent cheerleading — not smartphones, nor the internet, nor personal computing itself. (There was no need for it: you just used the new thing and if it worked, then it worked, QED.)
no, those tools sucked in comparison to what ai is doing.
i just built a financial dashboard for my business. in realtime, i'm sucking in all the data from quickbooks, mercury, stripe, deel APIs and presenting it to myself, and my investors. it does all that sitting in cloudflare as a worker, for $5/month. took me a couple weeks of iteration, not a single line written.
from that i just told ai... "i'd like to get rid of quickbooks because yesterday it was down and i couldn't log into it. figure out what i'm using there and present me an interface that allows me to do whatever i'm doing in quickbooks, but with my existing data from stripe, deel and mercury."
it then dutifully went off and built me that app and now i'm running it in parallel and synchronized with quickbooks, until i feel that i can just turn that off. it is customized exactly to my business workflow and easily maintained with full unit tests. it costs me nothing but a $200/mo codex subscription and a few hours of work.
"The ASRock BC-250 is interesting. Sold as a mining card during the crypto boom of 2021/2022, then killed by Ethereum’s proof-of-work migration, leaving many mining farms out of business with many BC 250s never used or even opened. Dumped as e-waste."
I worked for the farm. We had 20k of them deployed and from what I understand, another 30k in boxes.
I care, I just don't believe you in that statement. There were "confidential nda" notes embedded in the release that Chris didn't remove until afterwards. That doesn't scream: "we're going to open source this some day!"
If it was going to "eventually" be made open source, why not do it from the start? Why not do it a year in?
From what I was told, your speculation is incorrect. I can't say anything more than that, sorry.
I don't know why you're so aggressive in tone towards me, chill out.
> If it was going to "eventually" be made open source, why not do it from the start? Why not do it a year in?
That isn't how open sourcing software works. It gets released when it is ready or gradually.
But of course as I predicted that you would ask that question. Why didn't Linus release Linux immediately? Why did he wait 29 days to do it instead of the day when he announced it? Why didn't Rust release 4 years early as soon as is was eventually open sourced?
> From what I was told, your speculation is incorrect. I can't say anything more than that, sorry.
Who told you? Nvidia directly?
The correct answer is that you do NOT know the reason yourself because there was NO discussion at all.
It took about a week to get Sun Microsystems to open source Tomcat and Ant, which became massively distributed and used software. So yea... it happens quickly.
I'm going to skip past all of your asinine aggressive response and just answer one thing again since you missed it the first time...
> It took about a week to get Sun Microsystems to open source Tomcat and Ant, which became massively distributed and used software.
So that was not even open sourced “from the start” either.
You understand that you just undermined your own point? It was released when it was ready, rather than from the start.
The entire point is one company gave a gradual open source release over several months to a year, verses another company that has open sourced close to nothing related around CUDA or nvcc for decades.
nvcc remains completely closed source despite it even using Lattner’s LLVM (which he open sourced) as a dependency! (shocker)
> I'm going to skip past…
Exactly. Skip it because you seem to be struggling to answer those basic questions.
Nothing was missed as I already responded to your last sentence by asking you to post exactly what Nvidia just told you verbatim since you claimed to know the true reason. You failed to answer.
If that is too difficult then a paraphrasing is far better than: “I can’t for just reasons.”
Or just be honest and say: “I do not know the reason”.
> It was released when it was ready, rather than from the start.
Nope. It was released when they realized we were building something that was going to be competitive with theirs. It was viewed as better to join forces than do it separately because we were already helping them design the servlet spec.
> you seem to be struggling to answer those basic questions
I have yet to see a question, just a bunch of ad hominem. You really have some weird personal beef with me. Seek help and support for your anger issues.
The rest of the details to this are irrelevant. We already know that it was not open-sourced 'from the start' and as you just admitted, it took a week to get it ready and transition it from closed to open source.
So even with your example, it fails your own qualification for a project to "eventually" be made open source.
> I have yet to see a question, just a bunch of ad hominem. You really have some weird personal beef with me. Seek help and support for your anger issues.
I don't think you even know what an 'ad hominem" is or even realize that you just did one in your own comment as a distraction for not answering a basic question. But I'll remind you about what that question was since you missed it:
"Who told you? Nvidia directly?"
These are very basic question(s) that you are really struggling to answer. In this entire thread, you could not even give the real reason why Nvidia never would open source their CUDA or nvcc software when you "claimed" to know.
So again, Repeat exactly what Nvidia told you right here, given you claim to know the "true" reason or just say "I don't know".
> I answered your question. "you ever ask Nvidia why? i did."
No you did not. You are referring to a question that I already answered for you [0]. Your answer was incorrect.
>> The correct answer to my question is "No". CUDA or NVCC was never open sourced during its lifetime.
> The only struggle is your understanding. Maybe english isn't your first language, but that is me saying I asked Nvidia.
Says the person that does not know what an "ad hominem" was nor did you even realize you just did one in a previous reply. The question I am basically asking you is to elaborate on what the true reason was since you claimed to have asked them (Nvidia).
If Nvidia gave you their response, It should be very easy to just say it right here word-for-word or paraphrase what they told you then. Many replies later still, you are struggling to even do that.
Such as basic question to answer and yet you continue pretending to know the reason when you clearly don't know.
I don't have to elaborate on it, nor would I as the matter of the discussion was confidential. If you want to ask them and get the answer, go right ahead.
I've been reading them since before all of the AI hype, and I've always thought they're pretty good. You a few spicy takes with the overview/opinions/benchmarks. Better than semiaccurate.
The article you link says not a lot of criticisms with very many words, and the AI prose gets much worse towards the end, seemingly when the author also gave up on reading it. I am disappointing in the plagiarism though, especially of Ryan Smith.
I am much more interested in what you think of the site though vs your own experiences running a GPU cloud. I've seen your comments on it for a long time, it's super interesting. So if you think their takes are mostly bunk I'd consider it way more than this hot aisle guy.
It isn't about bunk takes or not. It is about the motivation behind doing something.
Their takes are fabricated in such a way as to drive clicks to their business, where they are printing money selling MNDA to the highest bidder.
Dylan uses his influence as a service and it is borderline criminal. He just sued a whistleblower employee. It is so blatant, he even lives and works directly with people in power who feed him information.
Kind of like how SBF used his altruism to cover up the fraud he was doing. Everyone thought he was a good guy, until they realized he wasn't.
I dunno, it's a blog, so I'm not so worried about the motivation behind it besides how it biases their takes. I think being close to people that feed you information might be prerequisite to the kind of information he sends out.
I've seen the paid subscriber sections and it's nothing groundbreaking. I wouldn't/don't pay for it.
SBF used his altruism to cover up fraud. If the SA benchmarks were fraudulent, that would be a big deal. If he's just "in bed with the AI companies", like, that's a big part of the reason it's such a popular blog?
Also, I don't really have to think that Dylan is a good guy, and I certainly wasn't the only one that did not think SBF was a good guy. I get that it's really easy to call his implosion unsurprising after the fact, but it was truly unsurprising.
> "I'm not so worried about the motivation behind it besides how it biases their takes."
Troi oi. Read what you wrote again.
Dylan is a grifting fraud. I wrote a too long document explaining a ton of examples and you're handwaving it away.
SA benchmarks for inferencemax? Yea... AMD / NVidia put their best engineers on tuning, just for the benchmarks. It isn't about serving up inference fast, it is about appearing better on the charts to sell more chips.
It is a popular blog because it is an influence service. That's the whole point. Write things that get clicks.
I can get info from and even enjoy reading a biased take. It's not so hard to see where they are coming from. In the "semicon trash talk and rumors blogosphere", you take everything with a grain of salt, etc.
> Dylan is a grifting fraud. I wrote a too long document explaining a ton of examples and you're handwaving it away.
I've taken this to mean that it's your post so I went through it again. Some of the points are interesting but I don't think it's a very good case that he's a grifting fraud.
I enjoy the AI images done in their style though, it's pretty funny.
> AMD / NVidia put their best engineers on tuning, just for the benchmarks. It isn't about serving up inference fast.
NV has enough "best engineers" to have a couple people tuning for one of the most popular public tok/$ benchmarks without sweating. IDK about amd.
if this is the worst it can be, it can only get better
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