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Genuinely how are people like you still around and semi-concious after the past 8 years


What's up with the part of the website where you are talking about "neutralized foreign actors", was that also using contracted Mechanical Turk labor?


The industry is so backwards, there are residential proxy companies that are directly paid by one of the largest market research firms. I have discussed this at length https://www.reddit.com/r/Marketresearch/comments/1s2tl0o/ope...

It should be a bipartisan issue that a Swedish company is paying a UAE Residential Proxy company [1] to build tools that allow people from anywhere in the world to take US political polls that are used by both parties to collect election data.

Just for starters, you can't even think about soliciting online work from a panel without a robust residential proxy detection methods. We had to build our own:

`wget -N 'https://grip.net/files/grip-proxy-30d.mmdb'`

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOmeQcwSK3o flagged by Nokia Deepfield and CTRL for it's involvement in botnets


Polling data isn't some guaranteed right or something. If you ask the Internet questions and then sell the collated answers, it's your job to authenticate the responses or your polls will be wildly wrong and people will stop buying them.

Which is already the case and nobody but a bunch of campaign contractors who can't justify their do nothing jobs anymore cares.


I just remembered that in the story "Simulacron-3", there is ostensibly a law requiring people to respond to opinion polls. It is illegal to refuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacron-3

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Exactly, it’s a beautiful thing when the market is rational https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CINT.ST/


Someone using an IP that a geoip database says is US, doesn't mean that person is a US voter. The existence of proxies on the internet is a feature.


Obviously, a problem not even fully addressed by L2’s datasets. Sure, but the use of proxies to masquerade the identity of users being sold to researcher buyers that paid for a different service is fraud


It makes me question why the surveys don't ask for the users country. That way they cd can figure it out without trying to guess it based off of IP.


Users/respondents lie, and many buyers/researchers are neo-luddites; most C level still come from the telemarketing days. A fun example: mobile targeting is terrible when off wifi because all survey platforms uniq identify users based off their IPv4, so any T-Mobile LTE users in the same city going through the same CGNAT often share profiling data that ends up conflicting, which ends up meaning they don't get sent into the best survey(s). The issue is even worse in heavy IPv6 countries like India+France.


The fact that you can sell a product that doesn't work and become a billionaire proves capitalism is broken.


Yes. Much better to leave these decisions to the Dear Leader who is infinitely wise and cannot be misled. Or to the People's Central Planning Committee, where they decide all the allocations and strip rich people's wealth if they aren't on board with the correct ideology. Such systems are non-broken and have yielded unmeasurable prosperity throughout the world wherever implemented.


... What?


Is this the best use of your time?


That is not exactly how disciplinary or legal procedures tend to go. The intention is clear here.


Nope, it isn't. Not without the comma. And especially without context.


She should sell it, it's important to make people who may have been "a-political" before aware of what's going on.


I’m not sure I follow the logic here. Let’s say a person owns a Tesla outright, and purchased it ignorant to Elon’s behavior (esp if prior to the last year or two). How does selling it benefit some cause? Tesla already has that person’s money. It’s purely a performative action?


> Tesla already has that person’s money. It’s purely a performative action?

Car companies care deeply about resale value, since that directly impacts new car value.


Teslas require constant maintenance (like all cars, plus the recalls) and many have a subscription, it's not performative. Each Tesla owner is an asset to them post-sale.


And selling your Tesla to someone else addresses that issue how?


there is/was a meme going around "boston tesla party" and i think if people are serious they should dismantle the teslas they bought, and (freely) recycle all the parts. Just take the L; otherwise this is, in fact, performative.

In fact, i'll propose this to HN. You have your tesla that you can "no longer, in good faith, continue to own" delivered to a lot i specify, and i'll livestream a team of people taking it apart, sorting it, and sending the pieces off to recycling. I will not pay you for your tesla, and you must include the pink slip.

any takers? I am completely serious. I think it would be fun (for me to set up and watch), it would probably be a well-viewed stream and VoD for each car, you could share the links with friends and family to show the strength of your convictions. It's win-win-win; Tesla already got their money, recycling is good for the earth, and you get to make a statement. I also win because i will pay the team that dismantles the car with the proceeds from recycling, which makes me a job creator.


why don’t you use your money and go buy one and do this instead of someone else taking a loss for you? you can even get great deals on leases you can buy at the end. come on, it’s only $50k, what’s the big deal?


You may have misunderstood the coment you replied to.

It's directed at others that want to performatively demonstrate getting rid of their Tesla, there's no claim that genewitch wants to rid the world of Tesla's, just an offer to provide a team and a channel for those that are prepared to go the whole way.

Think of it as a "put up or shut up" challenge.


Says someone who never owned a Tesla.


Destroying the market for used Teslas and the brand harms Elon Musk's personal wealth which he uses to achieve his personal political goals. Now you may or may not agree with that as a method, but the logic is straightforward.


It's not reasonable to expect someone to sell their primary mode of transportation, likely at a loss, for reasons out of their control.


But we have to suffer for their inaction. They have some small power to fight against it and are choosing not to. It's reasonable to watch people suffer or die but not to sell your car?


Would someone be expected to sell their home because the builder did something unsavory? Where do we draw the line?


> Where do we draw the line

That's what we're finding out in real time. A house signifies a one time purchase for a builder, whereas a Tesla is not only a moving advertisement but normally comes with a subscription service for maintenance and support, so the connection to and enablement of the company continues after purchase and through use.

Selling your house also wouldn't affect the power of the builder because his payment comes as a single packet after completing the contracted work, whereas Musk's power is supported by the stock value of his various companies and Tesla's stock price is connected to the value of their cars which is in Oost predicated on having a good resale value. If people rush to sell their Teslas then these values are negatively affected.

Finally the question about the builder is A) hypothetical while the Tesla situation is actually unfolding before us today, and B) aan unfair comparison because it's unlikely a tradesman will amass so much influence that his "unsavory" acts could lead to changing the power balances in warzones, shaking the foundations of American democracy, dismantling the relations that our treaty and security organisations are built upon etc etc etc.


People are usually upside down on vehicle purchases for at least half of their finance period.

I know I am.. there's no selling my Tesla at this point. Not for a while, and probably not ever, the way things are going.

That said, I'm 100% for tanking TSLA stock down to $110 to make life very very miserable for Musk..


Why $110 specifically?


I was looking for support for what I wrote, but the margin call details may have been debunked..

https://www.thestreet.com/technology/tesla-stock-declines-co...


Also sell toyota, nissan, folksvagen, Audi. Right? For the same reasons?

Glad I roll American coal!

ETA: i haven't driven a diesel in ~20 years, and it wasn't rolling coal. we have two japanese cars. If you can't detect the irony and self-deprecation in this comment, just move on.


What’s your advice to the person who’d buy it then? Sell it again?


There's value in the parts and eventually there will be scrap value.


I don't think it's a good idea to have that doorbell, or any doorbell that is surveilling at all times and you don't own the recordings. Who knows who is watching them.


I was just using a 2012 X230 running Arch and it's plenty snappy on the command line or even running an electron based editor (or as good as such a thing can be)


There was no mention of what distribution of linux, just "modern" whatever that means. If the person installs the lastest testversion of some distribution that tries to jam everything in there but does not have actual grapics drivers for the right card, it will be very sluggish. In the meantime my raspberry pi has no problems whatsoever with the latest linux.


Can't stand Noah or his preening "adult in the room" affect, when you can find him tripping over his own feet on Twitter any day of the week.


His takes on housing are pretty good but otherwise I really have a hard time with him


I mean yeah that makes sense


What does that mean


If you're decent at coding it's trivial to type out a few lines once you know what the problem is, and copilots barely help. It only makes sense for it to generate entire files, huge productivity savings there.


Does it write entire files that works well? Maybe if its very standard functionality you ask for?


It probably varies by environment, all I know is that it works 98% perfectly for me.


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