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These improvements are quite promising and I'm looking forward to giving that a spin once it is released.

Will the Windows side for 0.17.x get some compiler improvements as well or is this Linux only?


Might not make it in time for 0.17 but there is a contributor making progress on the COFF linker: https://codeberg.org/kcbanner/zig/src/branch/coff_linker_wip

Deepseek is much cheaper so that means you spend less on CCP than on Anthropic/OpenAI. Then there are third party providers as well.

It is only allowed in unsafe blocks. As long as the unsafe blocks are few and well understood then Rust programmers can contain this to a small well defined portion of a program.


I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or not. If you let AI run commands you don't understand (especially in production) you may end up with some nasty surprises.


With a comment like that, it's no wonder you're dramatically below our minimum guidance for tokens consumed.

If AI breaks production this way, you just tell AI to fix it! And look, now you've consumed tokens twice. Think on that and I'll see you at the end-of-year performance review.


  > If AI breaks production this way, you just tell AI to fix it! And look, now you've consumed tokens twice. Think on that and I'll see you at the end-of-year performance review.
it reminds me of using something like gdp as a measure where spending more money == good even if its at the cost of actually less productivity (more middlemen taking out rents, for example)


It’s not sarcastic at all. Using AI to accomplish things and fill in your knowledge gaps is literally the whole point of it. People are downvoting and salty because they thought the value in the job was in memorizing esoteric APIs (it never was)


Yes, if code is only a liability then just delete the code and poof liability is gone.


Would it be fair to say that complexity is a liability, and LOC is an (approximate) measure of complexity?


That’s just the same statement with an extra step.


The ultimate piece is not revenue but profit. At some point these enormous investments will have to be earned back. Good luck with that when open weight models are also continuously improving, have cheap providers and for many are already very usable.


The other point to make is that companies are starting to worry about the risks of externally hosted models.

This is at multiple levels if you have a remote API call as a key part of your workflow/software system.

1. Price risk - might be affordable today - but what about tomorrow?

2. Geopolitical risk - your access might be a victim of geopolitics ( seems much more likely that it used to be ).

3. Model stability/change management - you've got something working at the API get's 'upgraded' and your thing no longer works.

If you are running on open weight models - you are potentially fully in control - ( even if you pay somebody to host - you'd expected there to be multiple hosting options - with the ultimate fallback of being able to host yourself ).


Vendor lock-in with a monthly subscription where the price can change at any moment or the company may disappear along with your product. I wouldn't build my business on that.


I would love to make a license where you could export and then you can run it forever yourself on your own server! It’s not because I don’t want to do these things, it’s just I’m one person and I never get the time to do everything I would like to do.


Yea I get that, I still wouldn't want to invest a serious amount of time on a product to build on such a platform. Best of luck though maybe it still works as a business.


I can't even tell whether this comment is serious or not.



Person who profits indirectly from AI token spend advocates AI token spend.


Nobody would invent something like that as a joke...


Maybe Anthropic is just testing the waters to see what they can get away with. Left unchallenged (court, charge back, whatever) why change course?


I think it's they don't want to set a precedent on refunding for bugs because one bug could cost them millions.


Is that even legal? What happens if my landlord accidentally charges me 10x rent this month and refuse to correct it even after I ask? That's just straight up stealing. I feel like at a minimum I'm getting my money back one way or another, and they are likely to face consequences for theft.


But, no need to set a precedent: I'm quite confident that a US court would refund a person or company that overpaid due to a bug in Antropic's billing.


This is not just one bug, though; it’s a bug that takes money that ain’t theirs to take.


Well, with the Chinese AI divisions becoming a serious competitor more and more, they should start caring about their reputation. Otherwise people will go to the cheaper competitor.


Yea I am more or less done with these big providers. I'm running local primarily now. These constant screw ups, not caring about customers, political issues, it's just not worth it for me. I get some people are hooked on vibe coding but the latest wave of small models I'm good for my needs.


What do you use now? How much ram do you have? I am increasingly thinking of doing that


Well about 4 weeks ago I was mostly running small models. Some of my favorites were deepseek r1 8b and qwen 3.5 9b. Those are more or less good for boiler plate super fast responses(what I cared about most).

Now I am still trying out all the models that dropped this month. I am running qwen 3.6 35 a3b on a 16gb vram rtx 4060 ti.

I wish I sprung for a 24gb vram card but I never thought the price difference would matter. It seems like it does and I bet in the future there will be more models at this size because this is crazy.

It's not as good as opus if you are doing completely hands off programming but it's completely fine for me. I mostly use it for auto complete or templating a class. Other people are using it for agentic workflows with success.

Check out /r/localllama for more experiences. My set up is not the best but it is working for me and is saving me money.


> My set up is not the best but it is working for me and is saving me money.

I've got a local setup too but unless you consider hardware zero cost, there is really no way to save money. The class of model you can run on <$5k of hardware is dirt cheap to run in the cloud (generating tokens 24/7 non-stop is a few dollars a day at most, possibly even less than the cost of electricity to do it at home).


There's truth to that. But, I already had the card for other purposes. And I don't have to egress or ingress anything. I love having it all local to me. I also love how I can sell the card later. Funny thing, my GPU has gone up in price so I might even have made money


Also could run on a more generic cloud inference or gpu site. At least to see how well it works for your use-case before spending on hardware.


> Left unchallenged (court, charge back, whatever) why change course?

They are trying to go public and will get absolutely bitchslapped by SOX.


By whom? Which regulatory body is not completely captured in this administration?


because they want people to trust them and continue to use their services. being a shitty business to deal with will eventually bite them, its not like they are the only choice.


theres no water-testing here, they've been operating this way for years -- that's why I am a former customer.


The open models cannot be taken away. Anyone with the right hardware can host these. Unlike the API/subscription services where you can be banned from, may have drastic price increases or reduction of their limits.


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