I always found arguments for or against such technological advancements meaningless, if we don't specify what timeframes we are talking about. Sometimes I have the impression that people who disagree are simply thinking in different timeframes.
For me, only short- and sometimes mid-term timeframes are practical in such deabtes. Long-term is interesting, but more in the realm of science fiction.
In the context of AGI, is it inevitable eventually?
Sure, I would agree, unless some catastrophic event puts back our technological advancement.
IMO, don't see the path to AGI with the current tech, though. All current SOTA agents are still LLM based with all their flaws (limited reasoning, generalization, incomplete world model, hallucinations, ...). At their core, they are still next token predictors with a limited context.
Most of the advances in AI in the past 2 years are in post-training and harnesses.
I'd expect a different core technology than just an LLM in order to get to AGI.
> In the context of AGI, is it inevitable eventually? Sure, I would agree, unless some catastrophic event puts back our technological advancement.
What if it’s not a catastrophic event, but technological progress just asymptotically approaches 0? What if there is a limit to layers upon layers of abstraction and at some point it just becomes too complicated to keep going?
What if we all somehow decide that we don’t want AGI? It seems impossible now but a lot of people really seem to hate AI. What if that sentiment grows globally the next 50-100 years?
That’s all ignoring the possibility that the materialists are wrong. Around 80% of the world believes in some kind of soul or spirit. If anything materialism is a bit of a fringe belief.
> What if it’s not a catastrophic event, but technological progress just asymptotically approaches 0? What if there is a limit to layers upon layers of abstraction and at some point it just becomes too complicated to keep going?
Looking at history, there is not really an argument for progress to stop in the long term.
I think I get what you mean, that further advancement gets more and more complicated and the human mind gets to a limit what it can comprehend and reason about. But lots of research and progress have been augmented by technology in the past 70 years or so, and I don't see a reason why it wont continue along that path.
I agree that there is a limit to everything. But it is almost impossible to forsee when and where that is going to happen.
> I agree that there is a limit to everything. But it is almost impossible to forsee when and where that is going to happen.
That’s my point. We have no reason to assume that AGI exists within that limit. Certainly not enough to confidently state that it’s inevitable.
> I think I get what you mean, that further advancement gets more and more complicated and the human mind gets to a limit what it can comprehend and reason about.
That’s exactly what I meant!
>But lots of research and progress have been augmented by technology in the past 70 years or so, and I don't see a reason why it wont continue along that path
The prohibition against unjust killing is pretty much universal. What is or isn’t unjust is variable, but all societies have the concept of and prohibition against unjust killing.
It’s true that if AGI is easy for a small group of people to build prohibition isn’t really possible. But if AGI takes a massive data center and billions of dollars, it could be.
Killing has existed since the dawn of life. Heck, single celled organisms 'kill'. It makes sense for that to be a globally-recognized sentiment. You make a grand claim when you think that in 50 years that 'all forms of AI is bad' will become an equally globally-recognized sentiment as 'all forms of unjustified killing is bad'.
You’re the one that asked for a single globally shared sentiment. I provided one.
> You make a grand claim when you think that in 50 years that 'all forms of AI is bad' will become an equally globally-recognized sentiment as 'all forms of unjustified killing is bad'.
Actually VSCode Copilot does support (almost?) same plugin definition as claude code, https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/customization/age... .
I just added my local copy of CQ's plugin directory to `chat.pluginLocations` and it seems to work just fine.
It's built into the Unix terminal driver. Control-U is the default, but it can be changed with e.g. "stty kill". Libraries like readline also support it.
If I set the scale value (150) to roughly the ppi of my screen (4k 27"), I can see the effect.
You should see the rotating stars only in a small field of view (fov) where your eyes are focused and all other stars should seem to remain still.
My phone screen is a bit over 500 ppi. I tried it full screen across the entire range that it's in focus (I'm mildly nearsighted), and I could just see the things spinning across the whole field if the pinwheels were big enough to see motion at all.
I have tried to run micro https://micro-editor.github.io/ on my phone but this is some other beast if someone is running tmux and vim on their phone
I have found that typing normally is really preferably on android and usually I didn't like having to press columns or ctrl or anything so as such since micro is really just such a great thing overall, it fit so perfectly that when I had that device, I was coding more basic python on my phone than I was on my pc
Although back then I was running alpine on UserLand and I learnt a lot trying to make that alpine vm of sorts to work with python as it basically refused to and I think I learnt a lot which I might have forgotten now but the solution was very hacky (maybe gcompat) and I liked it
I do a lot of development and sysadmin stuff on phones and tablets, to a large degree due to PentiKeyboard. It helps a lot to see the entire screen and have all the usual keyboard sends that a regular, physical keyboard has.
I'm using micro in termux on my android. The keyboard of termux is quite adapted to the CLU bindings (ctrl-f, ctrl-s,...). My main use is to take notes, though I bought a physical small bluetooth keyboard perfect for making a little bit of python scripts from time to time.
I must admit that coding in vim on a kinda big project on a smartphone is really impressive.
Even though I drink some alcohol as well, it think kind of sad that it has such a reverse association with not having fun.
I am sure almost all people would have an awesome time regardless. It's very deeply ingrained in our culture and just the default behaviour when meeting in the evening.
