http://fitnah.org/fitnah_articles_english/interview_M_H_Luca...

Here our opinions diverge. I think the dress code is like a flag (or a svastika, like @Rasco explained). You defend it isn't. I think a good part of Muslims identify with anti-French causes. You think nothing is going on. I think there's a link between the niqab, the burkini, 8 terrorist attacks by Muslims, Köln's massive "spontaneous" rapes and my 8-years-old goddaughter's rape by a Muslim, all within 2 years. You say there isn't any such relation. I say I'm seeing thousands of Muslims in the street today with conservative outfits they weren't wearing 3 months ago. You say it's peaceful. If all you say is right, then how come we've had terrorist attacks? How can we make sure the niqab/religious support is peaceful?

Well, are Muslims at war against France? Let's see:

Our president chose to say "we are at war" in his speech, like Bush said in 2001. Such as USA in 2001, our country has then decided to destroy each other with racist restrictions and weapons. You say you agreed with "his response to the Paris attacks". I don't. There was another discourse he could have made about "How all French people are going to gather to help poor schools in the suburbs, which happen to be partly Arabic, so we starve off candidates to terrorism - and when there's equal chances for everyone then we'll be safe from terrorist attacks." I think this would have been more efficient for our taxes and more socialist from him. But Hollande didn't tell those words. He chose to say "we are at war against terrorists" and "we're going to spend 6 billion euros on police". See the difference. I didn't decide the war. But the French people massively gathered behind the president like you did, and you didn't say anything (at least, statistically, only 0.003% of you were there) when 3200 Muslims were house-arrested during the État d'Urgence. I was here to demonstrate, but no-one listened to the peaceful camp who wanted more education for poor people (including potential terrorists). Conclusion: I don't know whether the Arabs of France are at war against the whites, but I know France is at war against Radical Islamists, which is a very badly scoped subset of the Arabic population, so if I were Muslim I would feel threatened anyway. So it's totally plausible that random Muslims identify with the Islamist cause, and even moreso those who were agitate Muslim signs on the street.

So, yes, we are at war. Now is the dresscode related to religion and is the behavior related to that war?

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Last thing. You say:

> I stay out of French politics

> I have no particular love for Hollande

> I'm an agnostic

Let me address this fallacy. I've seen enough people to see a pattern. People who claim this also believe they are very neutral and moderate. But their opinion is strong and dismissive of others. For example you qualified my opinion as "shameful", you probably often dismiss others' opinions as "stupid". For example what did you say for the Brexit? Let me guess that you qualified voters as "fascist", or you assumed they were too old to think right, or too deep in the countryside to have education. Well maybe you could leave the possibility that they've made the vote they indeed wanted to, based of their own very sound reasoning, and that they;re neither shameful, fascist, stupid, senile nor are rednecks. Maybe others have a right to live and have decent opinions that are different than yours, don't you think?

You may have built this "I'm center and neutral" opinion through many means. For example you may have the feeling that Le Nouvel Obs or Le Monde are neutral magazines and that Le Monde Diplomatique gathers interesting articles from all opinions around the world. But those 3 examples go from leftish (only criticizing Hollande when it's unavoidable) to extreme-left (Le Monde Dipomatique hasn't quoted an article teaching about economics in years, except to paint bankers as thieves and crooks). If you've been in public schools too, then you've been taught all your life by leftish teachers. So this leaves very little room for accepting the existence of valid opinions in other people.

The other side is that in France, beyond what I believe is a djihad, there is also the ambient anti-Christianism that is everywhere, which I'm not sure you're aware of. It may look innocent but when I say I'm a Christian, I've been countless times talked about how "cruisades" or "inquisition" are bad, or I've been answered that "You're Christian, fine, but I'm not, because priests rape children. I completely tolerate your religion, though." - which you don't. Christians in movies are always depicted as stuck-up, and depicted as conservatives in all public litterature. This is where tolerance stops: France has been intolerant about Christians for long, and so-said "agnostic" French people err between not defending us and throwing more prejudices at us. But of course you're all arms up when it's about defending Muslims.

So is niqab about defending the right of Muslims to bring their traditions to France, including the right of Arabic people to burn the French flag or praise terrorism? I say yes. You say no. Let's vote.

First of all, please let me rid of you this opinion that I attend to any of france's political culture. The last time I read the Nouvel Obs was over almost two decades ago, because my father was reading it. I give very, very little attention to french politics and generally care only about European (EU) or American issues. The EU gave me a right to choose my country, so I left mine to find better ones.

Now, I didn't call your opinion shameful, I said I was personally ashamed of it. There is a lot of personal experience that goes into that. I was raised as an agnostic, in a catholic/atheist family. I have made muslim friends and fell in love with one. I've experienced, left and right, religious discrimination against my friends without understanding why people cared to be so hateful. I know by now what that discrimination looks like and I can form an opinion of others without having to hear their story at length. Reading this reply of yours reinforced all the assumptions I made. So yes, I was dismissive.

You are also confusing two things: Islam, and extremism-through-islam. I don't defend extremism.

My opinion on the subject is strong because I despise seeing this xenophobia (here used as, fear/hatred of "the different"). I believe this xenophobia is the root of terrorism. Not islam. Islam may be a vehicle for extremist terrorism, but xenophobia is the fuel that keeps it running. It's convenient for people to pick various parts of the Quran, a massive book, to point and laugh at and say "look how backwards and hateful this is". It's easy to do that with any old book, the Bible just as well; the roles could be reversed and the terrorism would work much the same way. Most religions have the same attributes, yet the west is only ganging up on Islam because it's easy, it's a minority and it's different enough. It also gets that disgusting patriotic hard-on going for the warmongering kinds.

I don't see people calling for a ban against christians when gays get shot in the name of jesus. That little "anti-christian sentiment" you're seeing, do you realize it's a reflection of the anti-muslim sentiment everywhere right now? Do you realize muslims are dying in their home countries, and being massively discriminated against in christian countries? There's a few orders of magnitude difference between those. "Christians are always depicted as uptight in movies" -- really? How about "Muslims are always depicted as terrorists"?

And seriously, you need to stop projecting this bullshit on people defending muslims. I'M not shitting on christians. I'M not the one calling "all christians uptight". I'm defending a bunch of fucking innocent people against what is currently a near-worldwide persecution. I'm not saying "let them into the countro so they can blow shit up", I'm saying "let's not prevent 50% of all muslims from wearing what they want to wear". Fuck. In fact, I didn't say anything against christians, yet here you are talking about how persecuted christianism is. Give me a break.

It baffles me that you complain about anti-christian persecution and are completely oblivious to your own position against muslims. Please do some serious self-reflection here.

Here's the deal: I don't care that you're a christian and I don't care what you're wearing. If people were calling you out, telling you not to wear your "I love jesus" shirt, I would be shitting on their insane logic all the same, and you'd be up in arms about your freedom of speech and clothing. This is my position, and it's consistent with Islam. You should be consistent as well -- if you want people to treat you with respect, then treat others with that same respect. Your religion, no matter which religion that is, doesn't get a free pass over another just because it's "yours". Your free speech doesn't get a free pass over somebody else's free speech.

> do you realize it's a reflection of the anti-muslim sentiment everywhere right now?

I didn't have an opinion on Muslims until a guy raped my goddaughter. Turns out he was Muslim. Bad luck for Muslims! Bad luck, really. Bad luck, or was it because she's the white child of French people? Is it his way to do djihad, at his level? Why would he djihad against me, while I was giving him free programming lessons so he could get a good job and avoid discrimination when he grows up? or is it just bad education from his parents? It echoed very hard with the Köln events. Is rape about bad education on a massive scale? Is it due to poverty, religion or simply traditions?

The answers don't matter. I've done my share. Muslims aren't as peaceful as you depict them. They don't clearly reject terrorism. A lot of them are hateful against France. If you don't acknowledge that, you're naive. There are few exits. Either they restore trust by participating positively to society, either we vote more and more extremist, have riots and racism and France will be in flames at the end of 2017.

What's more, if Muslims rejected extremism, would it be smart to buy a burkini today?

And that you haven't learned correlation vs causation. And are extremely prejudiced.