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What does "coop" mean in this context? ("founders and 2 _coops_, based in my living room") Is this basically an intern from a cooperative education program? If so, I'd love to hear more about your experience as a startup being involved in that kind of program.


I assume since they are based in waterloo they are talking about the waterloo coop program [ http://www.cecs.uwaterloo.ca/employers/prospective/ ].

Around waterloo it's actually normal for startups to be based around coop labor, they are cheap and the commitment is short (4-8 months), and best of all you get big tax breaks in Ontario if you hire students. Something else to keep in mind is that a waterloo coop student in their last year of coop has had at least 16 months work experience (To graduate the coop program you need to do at least 20 months of internships), so these aren't fresh out of class interns.


My school (Rochester Institute of Technology) had a huge coop program. The major difference I think is that coops are short term, paid work. You're supposed to be treated like a short term Full Time Employee (as opposed to someone who is supposed to go make coffee). People in technical majors would often get coops with Microsoft, Apple, Google, Cisco, etc. To complete your Computer Science degree, you were actually required to have completed 4 3-month coops.


Hey, another RIT alum, cool! /waves


Hi there!


Yeah, it's just the Waterloo word for intern. The short answer is: co-ops are cheap, but usually you get what you pay for.


co-ops are cheap, but usually you get what you pay for

Ouch. This does not describe my experience. My co-ops have generally been great and I have hired (or attempted to hire) more than one of them upon their graduation.

Of course, hiring co-ops is like any other kind of hiring - you have to match the right person to the right task.


Yeah I'm a bit harsh. However, what we've found is that:

1. At least 1 in 4 co-ops will just suck, and you're stuck with them for 4 months

2. The ones that are good are gone in 4 months so you're stuck having to replace + retrain constantly

3. Google and Facebook are offering co-ops $40/hr + free food + free rent + free massages + free blowjobs on Thursdays, so they always get the best ones. It's insane. As a tiny underfunded startup it's really hard to compete with that.


> + free blowjobs on Thursdays

wow, the war for talent really is heating up.




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