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We are quite a lot of people that fear the operation will be successful but the patient is dead with the Corona actions being taken. Case in point, 26.5 million americans have sought unemployment benefits (https://vastuullisuusuutiset.fi/en/weben/women-bear-brunt-of...).

The deaths in New York are quite telling for who is at risk, see https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109867/coronavirus-deat....

Over 90% of the dead so far are old with comorbidites such as Hypertension and Diabetes, see https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/most-nyc-....

So i agree that "not serious" is an accurate statement.



Your argument supports the statement that coronavirus is not as dangerous for young people compared to old people. And that it's really serious for old people.

There remains a required link to why this isn't serious for young people. And from there, an argument that this situation is better than the other scenarios (including 2nd order effects from other scenarios).


I think nobody has all the answers yet, but it looks like the state of your immune system along with age is a key factor.

See https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/30/what-explains-coronaviru...

That could explain why Monaco and Japan have not seen a lot of deaths, while Italy and Spain for example have.

In the US it would help immensely i think, if obesity and hypertension became a focus area when this crisis is over.


> Over 90% of the dead so far are old with comorbidites such as Hypertension and Diabetes

What's your definition of "old"?

I looked at your statista.com link and about 2/3 of deaths in NY are from people aged 75 and up. That leaves a non-trivial number of deaths for "middle-aged" people (and maybe younger).

Also, I don't know many middle-agers without some co-morbid condition, so I'm not sure we can just ascribe the deaths exclusively to "old sick people" because an enormous portion of the US population is "sick" with a morbid condition.

That being said, I will admit that there are many conflicting pieces of data flying about.

    Are the PCR and antibody tests reliable enough to base our lock-down decisions?

    Do we already have "herd immunity" and we're just too stupid/reluctant/lack-the-testing-capacity to realize it?
I have no clue. From my vantage-point it seems that most of us have our philosophical flags planted and we aren't willing to soberly assess where we are and maybe change our opinions.

It would be "nice" to have an AMA from an epidemiologist with expertise in this area to cut through the noise.


There is a statistic at this link for causes of death before Corona, it is worth to keep that in mind (https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/new-york-cause-of-death-...).

Coronary Heart Disease, Lung cancer and Hypertension can all be mitigated by a healthy life and the numbers seem to suggest that Corona has made these illnesses even more serious than before.

An AMA would be great and i can certainly see that being middle-aged with a co-morbid condition has gotten a lot more serious.


That's an accurate argument for why it'd be nice if COVID19 would be not serious. Wishful thinking doesn't make it not serious.

Deaths are telling for who is dead, not for who is at risk of lung damage, compromised immune system, or other consequences.


It's all in the eye of the beholder:

Africa have registered 1,297 deaths with a population of 1.2 billion (https://www.africanews.com/2020/04/24/coronavirus-in-africa-...).

Given the fact that 8.8 million die yearly, i'd say that for Africa this disease can be classified as 'not serious'.


You're missing the point.

If I break both of your legs, that's serious. You're not dead.

If you catch AIDS, that's pretty serious. You're also not dead for a pretty long time.

If I poke your eyes out, that's serious. You're also not dead.

You've redefined a serious medical problem at one which kills you. COVID19 disables far more people than it kills. We don't know how many more, and we won't know for quite a while. With lung damage, most doctors believe the damage is permanent, but some believe people will recover in a decade or two. With other organ damage, we're just speculating.


Do you have some data that backs up this claim ?




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