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And then they promised to be the browser which would "protect your privacy"! Then they went on to do opt-out telemetry and claim ownership of user data so that was all a joke as well. The org deserves so much worse than it's grappling with.


> Mozilla pushed out Brendan Eich because of his poltical ideals. Because of that I am unwilling to support them.

Specifically - it was his PERSONAL ideals, not affecting the company in any way, shape or form. THAT's why it is so outrageous.


Why do you assume that personal ideas are exempt from consequence and criticism?


Lobbying the government to restrict his employees’ freedom to marry who they want was indeed a political “ideal”, but its actual content is of course important to the context.

You make it sound more noble than him trying to make his personal “ick” into binding law.


To clarify, by "political ideals" you mean thinking gay people don't deserve the rights straight people do, right?


He supported prop 8, which was about same-sex marriage. It passed in California; the majority of voters agreed with Eich.

I disagree with Eich, and opposed the proposition, but his position was the normal one at the time.


Are you describing banning gay marriage as an "ideal" here or is there more controversy I didn't hear about?


Nope, that’s the one. They’re upset that someone who is against human rights was ousted.

Opinions and actions have consequences.


Exactly! We're discussing so many of the consequences!


Is that because you agree with his ideals and that’s why you’ve made this decision?

If his ideals was something you disagreed with, would you then accept with Mozilla pushing him out?


I wonder how “political” that was and whether it was more office politics. Maybe he was standing in some people’s way and they found an excuse.


Undoubtedly that was part of it, but it also was a nationwide struggle session with articles in major news outlets.


Which political ideals?




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