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Democracy and equality is crumbling in front of our eyes. Epstein's client list has disappeared in full public view, his footage is doctored in full public view and no one can do anything besides write angry comments or shuffle around legal paper that won't amount to anything. Everything just looks like a meaningless TV show, whatever new horrific thing happens it'll be on the news for a while and disappear - no one will face any consequences, all of us will just click the next article. We are serfs and no one wants to admit it, and we love individuality and isolation too much to have the kind of class-consciousness it would take to actually create change.

Propaganda is everywhere but so many people believe their countries are free of propaganda.



At what point did equality and democracy ever exist? The only things that substantially changed were who the lords were, the method of gaining power, and what shape the power structure took. At no point was there ever meaningful equality, not even before the law.


I think that's an overly simplified view of 2000 years of history. We've never had a utopia, but its safe to say we have more democracy now than in the feudal ages. There have been periods of greater concentration of unchecked power and lesser in history, some periods where government was stronger and wasn't captured as much by private interests.


The USA is currently a “democracy” and the government of the USA is the single largest human organization in history, and has powers that monarchs could only ever have dreamed of. Surely, you are correct that governments have had varying levels of power, but they were at all times comprised of or bought by oligarchs.


I agree with your point. I'll just add that in my country, at least, the facade of democracy seemed to provide society with infectious glimmers of hope. The hope is fading quickly, and the general mood is both sour and bitter, straining interpersonal relationships.

Anyway, I'm not sure how democracy can really work in huge super-complex societies. This is why we have the "iron law of oligarchy".


Democracy in the sense of representative majoritarianism cannot work as the representatives will be bought, coerced, or murdered. In an absolute democracy, when the majority cease to be useful the powerful will launch propaganda campaigns and/or manipulate the vote outcome.


Have you ever stopped and thought maybe there really is no Epstein client list and maybe he really did commit suicide?

Maybe the Epstein client list is the propaganda?

Why would Epstein keep a "client" list? What criminal goes out of their way to document their crimes? What service was he even offering? I don't think even the local drug dealer is stupid enough to keep a written list of clients.

If some shady forces killed Epstein in prison why didn't they just kill him before he got to prison? The shady forces can get to him in federal prison but don't know he is being investigated to go back to prison? Why didn't Ghislaine Maxwell die in a mysterious car accident?

Why do people care about a client list that makes no sense and not all this supposed video evidence?

Your post just shows you spend too much time on social media reading bullshit that you think is real and it is not.


"The list" is really a catch all to all sorts of Epstein-related information.

Even when you fly private, you need to provide a manifest of who is on the plane. There were hundreds of flights. The FAA has that information. One can argue it's not evidence of malfeasance and by itself it's probably not but there's also a difference once sharing a flight and, for example, visiting the island 60 times.

There are also documented connections to all sorts of people including Prince Andrew, the Clintons, RFK Jr (which he voluntarily disclosed [1]), former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Bill Gates, Alan Dershowitz, etc.

Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, was a known Mossad asset, so much so that he essentially got a state funeral in Israel [2]. He also mysteriously died (drowned) on a yacht.

Ghislaine herself was herself convicted of sex trafficking. To whom? Nobody in particular. She has remained steadfastly silent on the issue.

It's also documented fact he got the plea deal of the century in 2008 that even allowed him to travel from jail anywhere he liked as long as he was back within 24 hours, even when there was grand jury testimony of SA of a 14 year old. The US attorney who authorized the deal, Alexander Acosta, became Trump's Labor Secretary until he resigned after details came to light following Epstein's 2019 arrest.

Between the home in NYC, the home in Palm Beach and the island there were hidden cameras everywhere. There are multiple, credible accounts of tapes that went missing following the 2019 arrest.

Nobody has ever really accounted for where his money came from and what services he actually provided.

Now extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I don't believe the "Epstein was killed" has ever come close to meeting that standard. A disabled security camera is more likely the result of guards who wanted to sleep than do required rounds than they are of murder.

But there is absolutely information the government is sitting on and tons of evidence that he (or Ghislaine) are linked to 3 letter agencies in a blackmail operation (as a so-called "access agent").

This isn't even a partisan issue: the current administration has zero interest in releasing more information about this (and is trying to downplay it, even though Epstein is core foundational mythology for the MAGA cult) but we had 4 years of the Biden administration who didn't release it either.

[1]: https://front.moveon.org/rfk-jr-s-troubling-patterns-continu...

[2]: https://archive.ph/BVWjz


> Now extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and I don't believe the "Epstein was killed" has ever come close to meeting that standard. A disabled security camera is more likely the result of guards who wanted to sleep than do required rounds than they are of murder.

The failed security camera pointed down the hall Epstein's cell was in. No guard stations would have been visible from it. The security footage they did finally release was pointing directly at the guard station.

Also, that footage combined with the map shows if you entered the floor and went straight to Epstein's cell without going to the guard station, you wouldn't have been visible on the camera. So it doesn't even show what they wanted it to show by releasing it.




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