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Manufacturing leaving the US in mass was always a myth.

Uh, figures?

It is one thing to say the US remained a manufacturer but to say the US didn't offshore a significant portion of its manufacturing capacity would seem to be an extraordinary claim which requires evidence, right?

The proportion of consumer goods I see which are marked "made in China" today approaches something like a hundred percent. Sure, there are other significant USA industries that produce a lot (and naturally have increased their output via automation) but it seems badly-spoken to say claim manufacturing leaving the US is myth. Some industries have left, "in mass", even.



Some links:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/602691-u-s-manufacturing-lea...

From 2011:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/u-s-still-leads-world-in-...

Yet America remains by far the No. 1 manufacturing country. It out-produces No. 2 China by more than 40 percent. U.S. manufacturers cranked out nearly $1.7 trillion in goods in 2009, according to the United Nations. The story of American factories essentially boils down to this: They've managed to make more goods with fewer workers.


As I said, the point isn't that the US remains a manufacturer.

The point is that many US manufacturing industries have left.

The two points are different, especially for the workers who previously worked in those industries.

IE, the OP points that industries haven't left the US in mass. That the remaining industries are very productive is a different, etc.


Then point to numbers showing they have left in mass. If such a large part of manufacturing has left then how does the US (according the 2009 report linked) still lead the world in manufacturing output? Are productivity increases enough to make up for manufacturing leaving at the levels many people like think? I certainly don't think so.

Pointing to manufacturing jobs going away is an invalid metric to start. Manufacturing jobs are gone and going, but it's not something that can be stopped. Some jobs were moved overseas, but many have simply been automated away. Over time even the ones overseas will be automated away.


It is a myth. America is still the top manufacturer in the world.

The difference is that China makes tons of duplicate copies of cheap goods, while America makes high value, lower run, complicated goods.

Which is why if you look only at consumer good you get the mistaken assumption that manufacturing is leaving the US. Try sourcing $100,000 machines and all of them are made in the US.


What on earth are you talking about? China makes more actual things, Germany makes more money making things. In what way is the US "top"?


GDP from the manufacturing sector has increased fourfold since 1950. All the while, jobs have decreased eightfold.

-Not exact figures.


So what are you saying then? That the US is "top" in growth of GDP from the manufacturing sector? Because I suspect that's not true either.


I'm not sure if top in growth, but the US manufacturing sector is at the forefront of GDP growth.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/602691-u-s-manufacturing-lea...


> Germany makes more money making things.

Per capita. But not even close on an absolute basis - the US makes more than twice as much as Germany.

http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009104319/g20-manufactu...

I couldn't find more recent numbers.


Jeesh, Could read my post?

The "myth" claimed by the OP was that manufacturers have left the US. That is not a myth despite the US remaining a top manufacturing country - because, as you say, what remained specialized, high-value items (planes, chemicals).

A large number of particular manufacturers left the US.


Depends on how you measure it, employment or dollars. If in employment, yes, much left; in dollars, relative to what was produced domestically, not so much.

As to your "make in China" - you'd have to buy many, many t-shirts or DVD players to even approach the magnitude of money going around in making, for example, Caterpillar construction equipment or BMW X5's.


The OP said industries leaving the US was a myth.

That is wrong no matter how you measure US manufacturing output.




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